Dr. David Finkelhor is an American Sociologist who is somewhat known as the go-to guy for child sexual abuse research. After watching his presentation at the Penn State Child Sexual Abuse Conference, I was really taken back by some of the things that he said and as some of my suspicions were confirmed, he is a part of this pro-pedophile agenda who seeks to legalize sex with children.
He was slated as the keynote speaker for a child sexual abuse conference at John Hopkins University headed by Dr. Ed Berlin who also supports B4U-Act, a pro-pedophile organization seeking to legalize sex with children. After Dr. Benjamin Carson’s comments about homosexuality, pedophilia and bestiality, the conference was mysteriously cancelled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G-fViw7UuxsIn the last article called, Dr. David Finkelhor: Respected Phd Researcher or Pedophile Pamphleteer? I mentioned some of the things that were mentioned at the conference. In this article, I wanted to offer a space where I could address a particular statement that he made which I believe will work against my grooming legislation if people do not understand how inaccurate his statements were. His statement was very long so I will insert my responses within the text.
At 42:35 in his presentation he says the following:
There are a lot of child molesters who should not be described as predatory. Now, you’ll say – now-but-you-know, they’re committing a crime; they’re exploiting children. Yes, that’s predatory, yes, that’s true but what I mean as predatory is somebody who comes into relationship with a child, or comes in proximity to the child with the goal of committing a sexual act with that child.
Crime cases involving internet offenders who view and/or download child pornography are also engaging in child molestation or diagnosed pedophilia. In many cases, these sexual offenders are trading images and home videos. In order to make a home video of child pornography, you’d have to have a child to sexually abuse. I have never heard of an instance where a child molester is rehabilitated.
In fact, research is clear that pedophilia has no cure, which explains why there is a push to normalize it like homosexuality. Sexual predators can groom children without touch. This means that you don’t know the intentions of a sexual predator, and cannot by any means confirm that someone who is in proximity with a child, will not groom them for sexual abuse.
I believe that all child molesters and pedophiles are predatory and are incapable of developing healthy relationships with children that do not groom them, any differently than a crackhead with a crack pipe. You would not encourage a person who has a narcotics problem to work in a pharmacy or as a drug dealer.
I think a dominant paradigm that we have is that all child molesters are out there kind of circling like – uh- birds of prey and trying to find niches where they can insinuate themselves into youth-serving organizations or families, and get access to children, that certainly happens and it is one of the most insidious dynamics,
As you said, that certainly happens….
but there are a large number of offenders who I believe (and I wish we had better research on this but I think the dynamics are clear) who get-who are in contact with kids for completely benign and positive reasons because they like being mentors, they like coaching sports, they like teaching, they like hanging out with their nieces and nephews, they like babysitting
So because of what the pedophile or child molester likes, we should put children around them? There is no way for you to know that a predators intentions are benign. There end goal is to satisfy themselves and they use grooming as a way to silence victims, including adults where they have successfully infiltrated and gained trust – similarly how you hold the position that you, but you promote that pedophilia is a sexual orientation and should be legalized, with the guise of protecting children.
but then because of a relationship that develops,because of some special closeness that happens, because of some opportunities that arise, these adults suddenly
recognize, feel some sexual interest.
A romantic relationship? What kind of relationship develops where a child can feel such a special closeness to an adult that opportunities arise where the adult suddenly has some sexual interest? Explain to me how a child who looks to an adult for leadership, guidance, and mentorship through school, extracurricular sporting activities, or some other kind of youth-serving environment could be viewed with sexual interest from said adult? No! You just told the world that grooming children for sexual abuse happens naturally and is okay.
Maybe this child has a crush on them, maybe this adult really realizes that this child has special qualities, and something kind of awakens; it could be a problem in the adult’s life and they then turn that relationship into a sexual relationship.
It appears that you are victim blaming. How do you blame a child for the actions of pedophiles and child molesters? I remember being a child who had a crush on an adult. I remember adults taking sexual interest in me but because I had been violated before the familiarity made me think there was something special about me, and not that the adult was a pervert. Perhaps I came to this assumption because of my undeveloped brain, as a child. A child having a crush on an adult does not green light sexual activity.
Additionally, what problem in the adult’s life? The adult who is lonely or has a failing marriage doesn’t look to a child for affection and sexual relationship. In an attempt to condone behaviors you are not referring to child molesters, or pedophiles in this presentation but as “adult” where you see fit.
An “adult” who is not a pedophile or child molester would not think that because a child has a “crush” or because of something special about the child they become “minor-attracted” as you want to be called, that having a sexual relationship with a child is the resolution to a child having a crush.
This is sick and misleading to try to explain away pedophilia. A child can not consent and an adult having sex with a child is not a relationship, it is called rape.
And I think, and I don’t and I – I – I – prefer to not call that predatory, and I think it has very important implications for prevention (that I’ll come back to) but I think that we have to recognize that that dynamic occurs.
I’m sorry what? You prefer not to call child sexual abuse grooming predatory? But, you agree that it happens?
The fact that not all offenders are pedophiles and have a recognizable and are aware of a sexual interest in children and the fact that they join organizations without having an intent to sexually abuse,
All offenders are offenders, period. If someone has a sexual interest in children they should not be in any proximity of children who they could groom for years (because it is not an instantaneous process), and eventually physically offend. Grooming is a part of offending. In many cases the years of emotional, spiritual even psychological abuse that is used during the grooming process it what makes the physical sexual abuse unbearable to overcome.
I think that this means we can not simply identify these individuals who are going to be at risk for children on the basis of their interest, on the basis of some sexual orientation, on the basis of some test of their sexual proclivities,
This makes no sense at all. You are seeking to normalize the idea that pedophilia is a sexual orientation which would remove rights of parents to self-select their child’s teachers, and charge parents with discrimination if they would speak out about their concerns. You are telling people that these child molesters and pedophiles not “individuals” who put children at risk should not be judged by being a child molester or pedophile?
using polygraphy to find out if they’re lying about whether they’re interested in children on motives that they express about why they want to do whatever they want to do (or any kind of screening) it’s a much more complicated problem I think than any predatory model would suggest.
I agree that people who are not convicted of crimes should not be forced to take polygraphs because a law like that could actually do more harm than good when companies decide how they will use the law to their advantage.
I also know that child molesters and pedophiles don’t always lie about it. Many child molesters and pedophiles feel like you, that their sexual orientation should be accepted and that legalizing sex with children will give them the freedom they need to be themselves – without any thought to the overwhelming evidence of how children are affected by child sexual abuse.
- 80% of adults suffering from mental illness were sexually abused as a child
- 80% of adults suffering from narcotics and/or alcoholism were sexually abused as a child
- 75% of prostitutes were sexually abused
- 97% of homeless mothers have been sexually abused and/or raped
Child Molesters and Pedophiles are higher educated and have better social skills than the typical criminal population, Dr. Finkelhor says. However, if victims of child sexual abuse come from all races, and economic backgrounds we need to be clear not to equate higher educated and better social skills with the idea that there is a target group of child molesters and pedophiles within a specific race or economic community.
What we can do however is understand that the stereotypes about child molesters and pedophiles which would give us the impression that they are social awkward, violent, and emotionally unavailable (to children) are not correct. This also means that we can further understand how this movement has gained momentum.
There are a group of doctors, lawyers, and other professionals who are in the pedophile community who have chosen to explain away the abuse intellectually in order to gain traction in legalizing it. But the effects of its victims exist, and my hope is that you (who are reading this) take this very serious, and support my mission to Make Child Sexual Abuse Grooming A Felony. Click here to sign.
What people do not understand is that education has been put in place of a deeply rooted relationship with God. Science to many, is God as it requires no faith, and only humanity to believe in. I inform my child to lead with the spiritual part of her being. This is why we are urged to walk in the spirit. I am Christian.
You may not be, but understand that we do not know what is being taught in classrooms across this nation. In many of them social workers, psychologists in training are being taught to agree with the pro-pedophile movement. They are taught the belief systems of satanists and are not told of many of the evils that have been done by someone who they commit to idolize.
Education is important but it should not ever replace your spiritual foundation as we should always be rooted and grounded in God. With such intimacy, it will be easy to spot imbalances within the system and challenge teachings that promote agendas that will hurt others, like the strategic plan to legalize sex with children.
Can you believe this man is promoting child sexual abuse grooming?
Ressurrection Graves is a child sexual abuse grooming expert who has authored a petition to make it a felony. She writes, speaks and educates the masses on protecting children and healing as adults from past child sexual abuse.